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Problem with tagging Canon "CR3" files
« on: November 04, 2018, 03:21:10 am »
I discovered a problem with Canon "cr3" files.
After tagging and untagging a cr3 file it is impossible to tag this file again. Furthermore, it is not possible to ad star-rating / color-rating for that file.
If I press the "T" key very quickly (or use quick mouse clicks) tagging (+ star / color rating) is sometimes possible.
I observe this behavior only with cr3 files. Everything else works perfect.
Has someone similar problems or is it due to my installation?
Desktop + Laptop with WIN 10, PM 5 newest build 19711 (d006a74)

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Re: Problem with tagging Canon "CR3" files
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2018, 04:55:18 am »
I discovered a problem with Canon "cr3" files.
After tagging and untagging a cr3 file it is impossible to tag this file again. Furthermore, it is not possible to ad star-rating / color-rating for that file.
If I press the "T" key very quickly (or use quick mouse clicks) tagging (+ star / color rating) is sometimes possible.
I observe this behavior only with cr3 files. Everything else works perfect.
Has someone similar problems or is it due to my installation?
Desktop + Laptop with WIN 10, PM 5 newest build 19711 (d006a74)

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.  We'll investigate.

-Kirk

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Re: Problem with tagging Canon "CR3" files
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2018, 01:25:50 pm »
Maybe it has something to do with the XMP data.
Normally (with i.e. cr2 files) no sidecar files where written and all information is embedded in the RAW file. Thatīs how I want it to be.
But with cr3 files PM writes XMP sidecar files and logs every change to the photo in an extra XMP file.
Attached you find my PM XMP preferences.
Is there a chance to get rid of the (unwanted) sidecar files?

Thanks,
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Re: Problem with tagging Canon "CR3" files
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2018, 12:34:46 pm »
Maybe it has something to do with the XMP data.
Normally (with i.e. cr2 files) no sidecar files where written and all information is embedded in the RAW file. Thatīs how I want it to be.
But with cr3 files PM writes XMP sidecar files and logs every change to the photo in an extra XMP file.
Attached you find my PM XMP preferences.
Is there a chance to get rid of the (unwanted) sidecar files?
Hi dig,
The CR3 format is very different from other RAW formats like CR2.  Most RAW formats are TIFF-based formats.  The CR3 format is based on the ISO Base Media File Format (e.g. MOV) and therefore PM requires the use of an XMP sidecar.  PM will not modify the CR3 file.
It looks like there was a small bug in the recent build that is causing PM to pay attention to the TIFF-based RAW preferences for CR3 when it should be ignoring them.  I've fixed this issue and the fix will be in the next build of PM5.  In the meantime, I recommend that you change your preferences to read the XMP sidecar first, then embedded XMP.  I definitely do NOT recommend ever reading embedded IPTC first (this is a legacy capability).  It looks like with your IPTC/XMP write settings you never create sidecar files for CR2, so these files shouldn't be affected.

HTH!

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Re: Problem with tagging Canon "CR3" files
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2018, 01:41:04 pm »
Hi dennis,

thanks for your quick clarification!
So I have to live with the extra XMP files while shooting Canon CR3-RAWs. Somewhat inconvenient but no big deal...

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