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PM build 3558 - new build observations
Skooker:
PM build 3558 - Running on Windows 10 New build observations: program starts about 20 sec faster than the previous build; there is still a lag when clicking on the ‘I’ icon to bring up the metadata template; still a delay when typing into IPTC fields; still a delay double clicking on images to bring up the Preview window; still a delay when clicking either the forward/back arrows in the upper left of the Preview window or on the keyboard arrows to move back & forward in the Preview window; inconsistent application of ctrl-C & ctrl-V in IPTC fields necessitating exiting & re-entering the IPTC template to use; still a delay when deleting images in the Preview window. Also when starting the program fresh both the PM contact sheet window & Preview widow open larger than my screen size & the right side info panel has the same problem, when the preview window is first opened it is either too large taking around 25 – 30% of the screen or it’s a sliver, almost invisible & the adjustment handle is very difficult to locate. Finally right clicking or ctrl-clicking the toolbar does not allow me to manage the buttons, ala PM V5
Kirk Baker:
For all of these issues, how many images are in your contact sheet, and what type of images are they? If RAW, are you having PM6 do RAW rendering via the Adobe DNG Converter?
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 15, 2019, 08:18:55 PM ---PM build 3558 - Running on Windows 10 New build observations: there is still a lag when clicking on the ‘I’ icon to bring up the metadata template.
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Every time or only the first time? How long is the delay? And are you really talking about the Metadata (IPTC) Template or the Metadata (IPTC) Info dialog?
On my Windows 7 system both versions of the dialog open up in less than a second.
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 15, 2019, 08:18:55 PM ---still a delay when typing into IPTC fields
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How long of a delay? Is it so long that you can easily type faster than the text appears (it lags behind your typing)?
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 15, 2019, 08:18:55 PM ---still a delay double clicking on images to bring up the Preview window
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Every time or only the first time? How long is the delay?
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 15, 2019, 08:18:55 PM ---still a delay when clicking either the forward/back arrows in the upper left of the Preview window or on the keyboard arrows to move back & forward in the Preview window
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That's odd. Moving through the previews on the Windows version absolutely rips for me.
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 15, 2019, 08:18:55 PM ---inconsistent application of ctrl-C & ctrl-V in IPTC fields necessitating exiting & re-entering the IPTC template to use;
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Inconsistent in what way? How does one reproduce this problem?
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 15, 2019, 08:18:55 PM ---still a delay when deleting images in the Preview window.
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How long is the delay?
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 15, 2019, 08:18:55 PM ---Also when starting the program fresh both the PM contact sheet window & Preview widow open larger than my screen size & the right side info panel has the same problem, when the preview window is first opened it is either too large taking around 25 – 30% of the screen or it’s a sliver, almost invisible & the adjustment handle is very difficult to locate.
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Fresh as in a new install? Or just on restart? Can you post a screenshot of what it looks like?
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 15, 2019, 08:18:55 PM ---Finally right clicking or ctrl-clicking the toolbar does not allow me to manage the buttons, ala PM V5
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I was not aware that the Windows PM5 application allowed any toolbar button management.
You used the word "still" many times to describe the problems in the latest build which makes me think that you informed us of these problems and that we did not address them. I looked at your other posts and I don't see where you brought these problems to our attention before. Did you contact support about these issues?
Thanks,
-Kirk
Skooker:
Sorry for the delayed response I’ve been away. To answer the questions:
# of images in contact sheet: 1 to approx. 35 at a time
‘I’ icon & metadata: delay 3-5 sec; the problem is with both IPTC Template & metadata info dialog
How long a delay in metadata: yes I can type faster than the metadata fields will accept, unfortunately when I do the metadata field does not always eventually capture all of the characters I’ve typed.
Delay double clicking images to bring up Preview window: this is consistent, i.e. it happens every time
Clicking on forward/back arrows, whether on the keyboard or preview window: glad t hear you’re not having the problem I’m having
Delay deleting in preview window: 2-3 sec; was almost immediate in PM5
Inconsistant ctrl-V: copy/paste will work for a while but then it stops, i.e. ctrl-V will not paste copied text – I’ll add that I can still copy/paste into or from MS Word without problems. If I close the metadata window & then reopen it copy/paste will then work again, for a while.
Initial opening of program problem with window size: I’m not sure what is meant by ‘fresh as in a new install’. I’ve had this problem ever since I installed PM6 just after it came out (update from PM5). Problems with the windows opening much too large for the screen occur almost every time I start PM6 for the day. If I close PM6 then reopen it there is no problem but if I turn off my computer & then turn it on again then restart PM6 the problem recurs. I’m not sure how to make a screen shot of something that takes over my entire screen & all that can be seen is the open contact sheet (without images) anchored to the upper left hand corner of the screen with the blank contact sheet (grey window filling the rest of the screen. – see screenshot from PM5 manual
Finally: I have addressed these problems before but not on the forum. I had an extensive email discussion with one of the PM people a while back, before I discovered the forum.
Kirk Baker:
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 17, 2019, 08:07:41 AM ---Sorry for the delayed response I’ve been away. To answer the questions:
# of images in contact sheet: 1 to approx. 35 at a time
‘I’ icon & metadata: delay 3-5 sec; the problem is with both IPTC Template & metadata info dialog
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That's odd. What kind of system do you have?
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 17, 2019, 08:07:41 AM ---How long a delay in metadata: yes I can type faster than the metadata fields will accept, unfortunately when I do the metadata field does not always eventually capture all of the characters I’ve typed.
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Try turning off autocomplete and spellchecking to see if that makes any difference.
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 17, 2019, 08:07:41 AM ---Delay double clicking images to bring up Preview window: this is consistent, i.e. it happens every time
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How long is the delay?
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 17, 2019, 08:07:41 AM ---Clicking on forward/back arrows, whether on the keyboard or preview window: glad t hear you’re not having the problem I’m having
Delay deleting in preview window: 2-3 sec; was almost immediate in PM5
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It's immediate for me on my system with many more images than you're working with.
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 17, 2019, 08:07:41 AM ---Inconsistant ctrl-V: copy/paste will work for a while but then it stops, i.e. ctrl-V will not paste copied text – I’ll add that I can still copy/paste into or from MS Word without problems. If I close the metadata window & then reopen it copy/paste will then work again, for a while.
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That's very strange.
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 17, 2019, 08:07:41 AM ---Initial opening of program problem with window size: I’m not sure what is meant by ‘fresh as in a new install’. I’ve had this problem ever since I installed PM6 just after it came out (update from PM5). Problems with the windows opening much too large for the screen occur almost every time I start PM6 for the day. If I close PM6 then reopen it there is no problem but if I turn off my computer & then turn it on again then restart PM6 the problem recurs. I’m not sure how to make a screen shot of something that takes over my entire screen & all that can be seen is the open contact sheet (without images) anchored to the upper left hand corner of the screen with the blank contact sheet (grey window filling the rest of the screen. – see screenshot from PM5 manual
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You should be able to capture your entire screen. I use Lightshot for screen captures on Windows.
--- Quote from: Skooker on August 17, 2019, 08:07:41 AM ---Finally: I have addressed these problems before but not on the forum. I had an extensive email discussion with one of the PM people a while back, before I discovered the forum.
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I'd like to see that email exchange if you're willing to share it with me.
As for your screenshot, of the toolbar icons from PM5, that was a macOS-only feature and never existed on Windows.
-Kirk
Skooker:
Sorry for the backhanded way I’m doing this but I can’t seem to figure out how to use the ‘quote’ button – probably simple but I’m not getting it.
System: HP Spectre 360; Processor i7-8750H; RAM 16 GB; running Windows10 64bit, Version 1809. Let me know if there is any other info you need.
Autocomplete is off, I don’t see where spell check can be turned off but it is currently on
Delay: just timed it again ~ 5 sec
I’m not sure what you mean that I should be able to capture my entire screen. When the initial contact sheet screen comes up I need to grab the size bars to make it smaller so that I can see the maximize/minimize buttons in the upper right corner. Once the screen is correctly sized these will either maximize to full screen size, minimize to the tool bar or return the size to its previous (what I’ve set) size.
Sorry to hear that I can’t adjust the toolbar icons; the ‘i’ button for the metadata & the external edit button are right next to each other & I occasionally click the edit button instead of the metadata button.
I was communicating with Bob Russell. He may have copies of the emails; I’m not sure how to send them to you.
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