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"is not" keywords search
« on: January 26, 2022, 01:04:07 AM »
With High Sierra and PM6+ build 6245. I am trying to run an "is not search on keywords.

A search term:

"keywords is not zzf-TutorialSupport"

works as expected and images with the keyword are no longer displayed.

But a search term

"keywords is not zzf-TutorialSupport or zzf"

brings the images back, suggesting "or" is working like "and".

Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks,

Graham




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Re: "is not" keywords search
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2022, 09:56:08 AM »
Graham,

With High Sierra and PM6+ build 6245. I am trying to run an "is not search on keywords.

A search term:

"keywords is not zzf-TutorialSupport"

works as expected and images with the keyword are no longer displayed.

But a search term

"keywords is not zzf-TutorialSupport or zzf"

brings the images back, suggesting "or" is working like "and".

This should work as you desire:

keywords is not (zzf-TutorialSupport or zzf)

-Kirk

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Re: "is not" keywords search
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2022, 11:03:12 AM »

This should work as you desire:

keywords is not (zzf-TutorialSupport or zzf)

-Kirk

Thanks, I tried quotes, but not brackets :-(

Cheers,

Graham

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Re: "is not" keywords search
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2022, 03:45:48 AM »
Unfortunately, this isn't working as hoped for.

I want to exclude all files with these keywords from all subsequent searches, filtering or browsing.

But subsequent filtering or browsing seems to override the restrictions I was hoping to achieve by filtering out images with the keyword search.

Nor does there appear to be any way of adding a new search on the restricted image set, without adding to the existing search terms.

I think I could do with a bit more help.

Cheers,

Graham


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Re: "is not" keywords search
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2022, 09:03:17 AM »
Graham,

Unfortunately, this isn't working as hoped for.

I want to exclude all files with these keywords from all subsequent searches, filtering or browsing.

But subsequent filtering or browsing seems to override the restrictions I was hoping to achieve by filtering out images with the keyword search.

Nor does there appear to be any way of adding a new search on the restricted image set, without adding to the existing search terms.

Browsing always expands the results.  The more you select, the more you see.

I suggest using the Filter system.  Make the first stage of the filter a "Custom Search" and enter your query.  All remaining filter possibilities will have already been filtered by the terms of the search.  You can add more custom searches if you want, or you can use any of the other criteria.  Filters always narrow the results.

HTH,

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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2022, 12:23:30 PM »

I suggest using the Filter system.  Make the first stage of the filter a "Custom Search" and enter your query.  All remaining filter possibilities will have already been filtered by the terms of the search.  You can add more custom searches if you want, or you can use any of the other criteria.  Filters always narrow the results.

HTH,

-Kirk

Thanks again, I didn't realise there was a custom search in the filter tab. This sounds just what I want.

Cheers,

Graham

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2022, 04:24:59 AM »
Next question on same train of thought. I realise I could make this simpler by just using

keywords is not zzf*

but the wildcard doesn't appear to work as all the zzf-TutorialSupport keyworded images still appear

A search of the forum seems to suggest the default is for PM to use zzf (without quotes) as if it included a * wildcard and it should hide all my zzf and all my zzf-TutorialSupport keyworded images, but it doesn't.

I assume there is a way to get this to work?