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Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« on: August 12, 2007, 09:15:37 AM »

I am using the ingest feature of Photo Mechanic and everything works great, except for one thing that is a little bewildering.   I use the frame number as part of the downloaded filename, and with every camera I shoot (which includes Canon 20D, 30D, 1DmkII, and a Canon 700IS P&S) the frame number works perfectly.  However, with the Canon 800 IS P&S, the frame number is always blank.  I can send a sample JPG for reference, I should also note that I shoot the 20D, 30D, and 1D in RAW.

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 10:16:05 AM »
I am using the ingest feature of Photo Mechanic and everything works great, except for one thing that is a little bewildering.   I use the frame number as part of the downloaded filename, and with every camera I shoot (which includes Canon 20D, 30D, 1DmkII, and a Canon 700IS P&S) the frame number works perfectly.  However, with the Canon 800 IS P&S, the frame number is always blank.  I can send a sample JPG for reference, I should also note that I shoot the 20D, 30D, and 1D in RAW.

How are the images named by the camera?

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 08:35:03 PM »

The images are named IMG_<seq>.jpg where I believe <seq> is the frame number. 

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 10:11:28 PM »
The images are named IMG_<seq>.jpg where I believe <seq> is the frame number.

Are you renaming them during Ingest?

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2007, 08:14:54 AM »
Yes.

Here are the macros I am using.

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{year4}/{month0}-{monthname3}/{day0}-{dow}/

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{model}-{frame4}-{hour24}{minute}{second}

It is the {frame4} tag that comes out blank with the Canon SD800 IS P&S camera.  These macros work perfectly with my 20D, 30D, and 1D. 

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2007, 04:13:47 PM »
I am using the ingest feature of Photo Mechanic and everything works great, except for one thing that is a little bewildering.   I use the frame number as part of the downloaded filename, and with every camera I shoot (which includes Canon 20D, 30D, 1DmkII, and a Canon 700IS P&S) the frame number works perfectly.  However, with the Canon 800 IS P&S, the frame number is always blank.  I can send a sample JPG for reference, I should also note that I shoot the 20D, 30D, and 1D in RAW.

Can you send us one of the images from your camera directly off the card?  I don't want it to pass through Ingest first.

Contact me directly by clicking on my name to the left of this message and send me a personal message.  I will respond with server upload information.

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 10:11:28 PM »
Any update on this thread yet?  I have images piling up that I would like to ingest, but I need a solution here before I can do so...

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2007, 11:47:03 PM »
Any update on this thread yet?  I have images piling up that I would like to ingest, but I need a solution here before I can do so...

Still looking into it.

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2007, 03:30:50 PM »
I am trying to find a work around, any time frame on this one?

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2007, 03:50:26 PM »
I am trying to find a work around, any time frame on this one?

Oh, sorry.  Dennis looked into the sample image and found that it worked perfectly fine with the {frame} variable so he is wondering what your workflow would have to had been like to cause it not to function correctly for you?

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 05:23:59 PM »
I was using the image ingester, and all the images were missing the frame number.

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2007, 05:45:52 PM »
I am trying to find a work around, any time frame on this one?

If your images are named IMG_1234.JPG and you use the {frame} or {frame4} variable, then even if we cannot find an internal makernote/Exif indicator, PM will at least extract the '1234' from the filename.  This should work with any JPEGs/RAW files that conform to the above naming scheme.

We took your sample image and were able to use the {frame} variable and it worked fine for us.  So I am wondering what your Ingest settings are?  Something has to be different about how your are doing your workflow from how we are doing our tests.

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2007, 09:50:53 PM »
Here they are;

Folder name:  {year4}/{month0}-{monthname3}/{day0}-{dow}/

Rename ingested photos as:  checked yes
{model:-3}-{frame4}-{hour24}{minute}{second}

Apply IPTC stationary pad is checked yes too.

Does this help?

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 09:54:53 PM »
Here they are;

Folder name:  {year4}/{month0}-{monthname3}/{day0}-{dow}/

Rename ingested photos as:  checked yes
{model:-3}-{frame4}-{hour24}{minute}{second}

Apply IPTC stationary pad is checked yes too.

Does this help?

Yes.  What do your resulting filenames look like then?

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Re: Frame Number /w Canon 800IS P&S
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 10:59:32 PM »

I just ingested a picture, the filename follows;

 IS--190153.jpg