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Offline theim

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Structured Keywording - Basic Question
« on: August 05, 2009, 02:22:24 PM »
Dear forum members,

Two very basic questions from someone new to keywording (me)!
I currently do all my keywording directly in the image files (IPTC).

Example:  I have keyworded a photo (of a Beagle and a Basset Hound) as follows:
'Animal, Dog, Beagle, Basset Hound' (without the quotes).

iView Media Pro:
In iView Media Pro (not the product acquired and repackaged by Microsoft), I have created Catalog Sets 'Animal', 'Dog', 'Beagle', and 'Basset Hound'.
The 'Beagle' and 'Basset Hound' are siblings with parent 'Dog', while 'Dog' is a child of 'Animal'.
In iView Media Pro, I arrange the photos into the proper Catalog Sets somewhat manually.
To do this, I filter on 'Beagle', then select all the resulting images and drag them to the 'Beagle' catalog set (and so forth).
This works just fine, but I'm somewhat uncomfortable relying too heavily on a product no longer supported (iView MP).

Lightroom:
I'd like to apply keywording in such a way that the files could be moved into Lightroom in the future and the hierarchies would be created automatically.
From what I've been reading, I would have to keyword as follows to achieve this:
'Animal|Dog|Beagle'.

First question: assuming my last example is correct, must I repeat the entire path for every sibling?
In other words, is the following necessary?

'Animal|Dog|Beagle'
'Animal|Dog|Basset Hound'

Second question: iView Media Pro does not seem to like the previous keyword structure.
It seems iView MP interprets the structured keyword string as one keyword (as 'Animal|Dog|Beagle' instead of three separate keywords).

Is there any way to tag an image with separate keywords (for iView MP consumption) and as a hierarchy of keywords (for Lightroom)?

Unfortunately, I do not have a copy of Lightroom to test.

Thanks,
-Tom

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Re: Structured Keywording - Basic Question
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 08:01:01 AM »
Questions resolved - no replies are necessary.

Thank you,
-Tom

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Re: Structured Keywording - Basic Question
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 12:11:25 AM »
resolved, yes, but I would enjoy see your solution !
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Re: Structured Keywording - Basic Question
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 07:47:34 AM »
resolved, yes, but I would enjoy see your solution !

Hi Soizic,

Well, I found a solution which works quite well using PM and Lightroom 2.4 (for Windows), but have just been confronted with an issue using PM and LR 2.4 for Mac.
As soon as that's resolved, I will be able to post the solution more confidently!

Here's the thread related to the LR for Mac problem I encountered:
http://forums.camerabits.com/index.php?topic=4670.0

Best regards,
-Tom