Keyword separator in 4.6.2b1

[Rick Baumhauer]

Kirk - just downloaded 4.6.2b1 for Mac, and went to import a batch of photos from yesterday.  When I went to the IPTC Stationery Pad, something looked odd, and I realized that my keyword heirarchies were much more readable than I'd become used to, due to leading and trailing spaces in the heirarchy.  Much as I like the readability, experience has taught me that this will cause problems when I import into Lightroom - see the conversation we had about this here:  http://forums.camerabits.com/index.php?topic=4462.0

I hunted all over the place in 4.6.2b1 trying to find the separator character so that I could eliminate the spaces, only to discover that the character definition space is gone from the Structured Keywords panel - there's just a checkbox to determine if a separator character should be used.

Has something changed that will eliminate the issue I was experiencing between PM and Lightroom, or was this an oversight?

Best regards,

Rick Baumhauer

[Kirk Baker]

Rick,

Kirk - just downloaded 4.6.2b1 for Mac, and went to import a batch of photos from yesterday.  When I went to the IPTC Stationery Pad, something looked odd, and I realized that my keyword heirarchies were much more readable than I'd become used to, due to leading and trailing spaces in the heirarchy.  Much as I like the readability, experience has taught me that this will cause problems when I import into Lightroom - see the conversation we had about this here:  http://forums.camerabits.com/index.php?topic=4462.0

I hunted all over the place in 4.6.2b1 trying to find the separator character so that I could eliminate the spaces, only to discover that the character definition space is gone from the Structured Keywords panel - there's just a checkbox to determine if a separator character should be used.

Has something changed that will eliminate the issue I was experiencing between PM and Lightroom, or was this an oversight?

Yes, the problem has been addressed.  We have decided to standardize on what Lightroom uses and remove options that would make compatibility difficult.

-Kirk

[Rick Baumhauer]

Kirk - but it  appears that you've standardized on leading and trailing spaces in the keyword heirarchy, and that is exactly what has caused problems for me in the past, as Lightroom doesn't strip out the spaces (or didn't when I opened the previous topic - has this changed in newer versions of LR?).

Rick

[Kirk Baker]

Rick,

Kirk - but it  appears that you've standardized on leading and trailing spaces in the keyword heirarchy, and that is exactly what has caused problems for me in the past, as Lightroom doesn't strip out the spaces (or didn't when I opened the previous topic - has this changed in newer versions of LR?).

That's just done to make keywords more readable.  When they're parsed and written back out to the metadata (XMP) the spaces are removed.  I have tested all of this round trip from PM to LR and back to PM again.  All is well.

Have you tried the beta and then tried LR with XMP written by PM?

-Kirk

[Rick Baumhauer]

Ah, okay - all is well.

I didn't try an import because of the world of hurt I went through earlier this year   If the spaces aren't written to XMP, I'll start testing the beta immediately.

Thanks for solving the issue in a customer-friendly way - it's nice to be able to read the keywords again.