PM+ LR Workflow

[RonaldFrommann]

Hi all,
Sorry to bring this topic up again, but my search wasn't really helpful.

As many here, I also want to use both programs in a workflow on a mac. Ingesting, renaming ,sorting, captioning in PM, editing the final selection in LR.
Here my questions: how do I transfer the final selection to LR?
Do I have to create a new folder and separate the picks from the rest?
Normally I just tag the picks in PM.
Is there a smoother way in PM to tell a selection to get imported in LR, without physically separating pics in subfolders?
Is it necessary to use  xmp sidecars to get tags, stars and colours created in PM to be read in LR?
I hate all these additional files floating around.
Who can help?

Thanks in advance

Ronald

[Kirk Baker]

Ronald,

As many here, I also want to use both programs in a workflow on a mac. Ingesting, renaming ,sorting, captioning in PM, editing the final selection in LR.
Here my questions: how do I transfer the final selection to LR?
Do I have to create a new folder and separate the picks from the rest?

You should be able to import them (leaving them where they are) into LR.  Not sure what command to use in LR though.

Normally I just tag the picks in PM.
Is there a smoother way in PM to tell a selection to get imported in LR, without physically separating pics in subfolders?

Not directly via a command in PM, but try drag and drop from PM to LR.

Is it necessary to use  xmp sidecars to get tags, stars and colours created in PM to be read in LR?
I hate all these additional files floating around.

XMP sidecars are Adobe's 'invention': they're necessary for RAW files.  XMP is directly embedded into TIFF, PSD, DNG, and JPEG so there is no sidecar file with these formats.  You can also embed XMP into RAW files, but you'll experience problems with all of Adobe's apps if you do so.  Embedding XMP into RAW files is not recommended if you're using Adobe products.

Hopefully someone with more LR experience will chime in with information about the import process.

-Kirk

[mbbphoto]

IF you are on a Mac.....

Tag selections,select all tagged,drag selected images onto LR3 icon in your dock.
LR3 import will open folder and only tagged images will be selected for import.

If your on Windows I have no idea...

Marc

[RonaldFrommann]

Thanks Kirk for that quick answer.
And thanks Marc, that helped a lot.
Still not quite shure, wether I have to use the xmp as sidecar files in my workflow?
Best regards


Ronald

[Kirk Baker]

Ronald,

Thanks Kirk for that quick answer.
And thanks Marc, that helped a lot.
Still not quite shure, wether I have to use the xmp as sidecar files in my workflow?

Yes, you definitely should use XMP sidecar files with your RAW files.  Otherwise you'll have problems with Lightroom, Photoshop, and Bridge.

-Kirk

[JAS Photo]

Kirk - I hate to ask this of you and maybe someone on this list knows many of the LR/PM questions & answers but could someone create a PM/LR workflow cheat sheet.
Thanks

[sydlow]

My current workflow is a bit different to the OP:
- I use LR to do all the image-based adjustments, selects and exports
- I shoot in RAW (Nikon NEF)
- I use PM for all captioning

So:
1. Import RAW images into LR3
2. Select the images I want to caption (I use stars as my rating)
3. Save metadata to file (this makes LR3 make a XMP sidecar file)
4. Open the folder in PM and select the files that have 1 star and higher (or whatever tagging you use). Don't worry if your image edits don't show up in PM as your prefs may be looking at the embedded jpeg file and not the RAW
5. Caption away. Note that the captions are written into the XMP file AND the RAW file if that's how you've got it set up.
6. Be careful not to change the rating of the images in PM as there are problems with LR reading those changes back from the sidecar file. Just doing IPTC changes in PM is fine. (see discussion http://forums.camerabits.com/index.php?topic=5428.0;topicseen)
7. When you have finished captioning switch back to LR3
8. Select all the files that you've captioned and select Read Metadata from Files
9. Export the images as you need