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What in the world is going on?
« on: December 06, 2006, 02:58:26 AM »
Hi,
all of the sudden my PM looks like that. It is only when the nef and jpgs is combined and only in 100% preview. Best Karsten

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2006, 06:27:55 AM »
Karsten,

all of the sudden my PM looks like that. It is only when the nef and jpgs is combined and only in 100% preview.

What Nikon camera are you using?
What version of Mac OS X are you running?

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2006, 12:02:05 PM »
I am using Nikon D100, Mac OS 10.4.8. and ADR. I have just changed to "Render Raw for Preview..." so maybe it has been a problem all the time. To make it even more confusing: it is not on every nef/jpg combination!

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2006, 01:28:21 PM »
I am using Nikon D100, Mac OS 10.4.8. and ADR. I have just changed to "Render Raw for Preview..." so maybe it has been a problem all the time. To make it even more confusing: it is not on every nef/jpg combination!

What is ADR?

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2006, 01:44:28 PM »
I don't know. What I ment was ACR (adobe camera raw). Sorry.

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 01:46:35 PM »
I don't know. What I ment was ACR (adobe camera raw). Sorry.

Can you send me a NEF/JPEG pair that exhibits the problem?

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2006, 02:01:29 PM »
Yes. I can send it right now. I have your ftp adress.

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2006, 05:41:00 PM »
Yes. I can send it right now. I have your ftp adress.

OK, just let me know what the filenames are.

Thanks,

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2006, 12:22:36 AM »
DSC_569306-061030.nef and DSC_569306-061030.jpg

I have allready sent them.

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2006, 09:24:33 PM »
Karsten,

DSC_569306-061030.nef and DSC_569306-061030.jpg

I have allready sent them.

I downloaded the samples.  What path has the NEF file gone through?  It shows a resolution of 2008x3020, while the matching JPEG shows a resolution of 2723x4096 which is greatly different from the JPEG size.

I never could reproduce the stretched out image you posted but the image resolution does seem odd...

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2006, 03:21:52 PM »
Kirk,
the nef-files has been imported with PM then opened and edited in ACR. The difference between nef and jpg is because the file has been upsized/resampled in ACR. Then saved as jpg.
I have not been able to reproduce what the problem is. It shows up in some pictures in different folders and only when the nef and jpgs are combined. If I separete them the nef´s look normal again! ???

Best Karsten

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 06:16:27 AM »
I have seen distorted views like this when using RAW+jpeg from a Canon EOS1D Mk2.  When viewing RAW+jpeg I have PM prefs set to use the jpeg for the Preview not the RAW, for better speed.  If I want to check the RAW in more detail I use the Q keyboard shortcut to switch to have the RAW rendered, and I have somtimes seen this stretched behaviour then.  I'm not certain of the exact circumstances when it happens as to when it doesn't.  My RAW+jpeg pairs are not the same pixel dimensions as each other since I use the small jpeg setting if shooting RAW+jpeg, so I'd assumed it was some sort of cache problem when PM gets confused and distorts one pic to fit the resolution of the other, or vice versa.

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2006, 03:47:21 PM »
Thank you for your response. Is there a way to work around this "cache problem" you are talking about? Best Karsten

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Re: What in the world is going on?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2006, 05:49:53 PM »
Thank you for your response. Is there a way to work around this "cache problem" you are talking about? Best Karsten

I have no idea if it really is a cache problem or not - that's just my uneducated guess!  When I have had this happen I have not been able to work around it, but I have not tried very hard to do so.  I shoot RAW only rarely so it has not been a big problem for my work.  Next time it occurs I shall try to work out exactly what I have done beforehand.