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Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« on: October 22, 2019, 10:13:18 AM »
I have a question regarding keywords and persons shown.
  - I've selected using a semicolon as a delimiter in Preferences,
  - In persons shown, I'm using the name format of Last, First
  - I only use structured keywords, an example is Flowers | Columbine, pink or Animals | Duck, Mallard

When I reloaded my catalog, all the items that had commas appeared in the IPTC browse panel as though the comma was the delimiter. Clicking on each one restored the list as though PM were re-indexing.

Q: Is it possible to use commas in this way, and

Q: If so, is it possible for PM to index the string including the comma?

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2019, 11:06:59 AM »
Ken,

I have a question regarding keywords and persons shown.
  - I've selected using a semicolon as a delimiter in Preferences,
  - In persons shown, I'm using the name format of Last, First
  - I only use structured keywords, an example is Flowers | Columbine, pink or Animals | Duck, Mallard

When I reloaded my catalog, all the items that had commas appeared in the IPTC browse panel as though the comma was the delimiter. Clicking on each one restored the list as though PM were re-indexing.

Q: Is it possible to use commas in this way, and

Q: If so, is it possible for PM to index the string including the comma?

Could you please post two screenshots, one showing what your metadata looks like in the Metadata (IPTC) Info dialog, and the other showing what it looks like in the Browse tree?  Use the 'Attachments and other options' link when you're composing your reply to this message and there you'll be able to upload your JPEG format screenshots.

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2019, 11:36:41 AM »
Thanks, Kirk.

Attached are IPTC Preferences, The browse panel after a scan to catalog, the browse panel after clicking on each person's name, and an IPTC metadata panel.

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2019, 11:57:02 AM »
Kirk,

Here are the panels for the keywords...

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2019, 12:37:13 PM »
Ken,

When you say:

the browse panel after clicking on each person's name

Does this mean that you're clicking on each name in the Browse panel and it spontaneously changes?

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2019, 01:10:31 PM »
Yes. Both the names and the keywords! Don't I come up with the darndest issues?

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2019, 02:54:45 PM »
Ken,

Yes. Both the names and the keywords! Don't I come up with the darndest issues?

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We've identified the problem and have fixed it.  We're releasing a new PM6 build (which is taking up a lot of our time) but we may have time to get out a build between the betas this week.

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2019, 01:45:51 PM »
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With the new release today, this issue still exists. Same behavior. What can I send you?

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2019, 02:02:24 PM »
Ken,

With the new release today, this issue still exists. Same behavior. What can I send you?

Did you rescan all of your images?  The fix won't spontaneously address an existing catalog.

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2019, 02:14:08 PM »
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Yes. It's a small test group, created new catalog, scanned to catalog.

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2019, 02:19:40 PM »
Ken,

We'll look into it on Monday.

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2024, 05:15:55 PM »
Hi Kirk,

I'm seeing this exact same issue happen. I have a list of names for my catalog that are setup "LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME" and a semi-colon is used as a delimiter. if I re-scan my catalog it will break it up so that the first / last name are individually represented; however clicking on their names causes them to be re-evaluated and correct themselves.

My PM+ version is: Photo Mechanic Plus Version 6.0, build 7102 (796dd4a)

Any possible action I can take to correct this rather annoying bug?

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2024, 10:53:20 AM »
No, we're going to have to fix it on our end.

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2024, 11:51:53 AM »
Hi Kirk,

Thanks for the reply! Is there any ETA on fixing this particular bug? Prior to my post it looks like the issue was last discussed in 2019 so I'm not sure if it's a new bug or a long running one.

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Re: Question Regarding Keywords and Persons Shown: Use of Commas
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2024, 10:43:33 PM »
Thanks for the reply! Is there any ETA on fixing this particular bug? Prior to my post it looks like the issue was last discussed in 2019 so I'm not sure if it's a new bug or a long running one.

We've pushed it up in priority recently, but it hasn't yet been addressed.

-Kirk