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Cropping Problem
« on: October 11, 2015, 09:20:35 AM »
I am using:
OSX 10.11
PM 5.0 build 16765
ACR 9.2

I applied a crop to an image in PM, then removed it. The image displays properly in PM.

When I open the image in ACR, the image is cropped.

There is no way to remove the crop in ACR, it seems to think the former PM crop exists and is the whole image.

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2015, 09:54:30 AM »
Mick,

I am using:
OSX 10.11
PM 5.0 build 16765
ACR 9.2

I applied a crop to an image in PM, then removed it. The image displays properly in PM.

When I open the image in ACR, the image is cropped.

There is no way to remove the crop in ACR, it seems to think the former PM crop exists and is the whole image.

Please provide me with a sample file (including the XMP sidecar file if you use them.)

Thanks,

-Kirk

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2015, 06:07:54 AM »
Kirk,

How do I get a 43mb D800e raw file to you?

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2015, 08:36:07 AM »
Mick,

How do I get a 43mb D800e raw file to you?

You can put it on something like Dropbox.com and give me a link, or contact me privately for our FTP server info.  Please provide any XMP sidecar files as well if applicable.

Thanks,

-Kirk

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2015, 05:26:43 PM »
Kirk:

I sent you a PM with the Dropbox link.

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2015, 09:37:59 PM »
Mick,

The embedded XMP does not have any of the fields that describe a crop's dimensions.  The only Camera RAW settings in the XMP are these two:

   crs:HasSettings="False"
   crs:AlreadyApplied="False"

It may be that the mere presence of the "AlreadyApplied" field causes ACR to think there's a crop and that it's full size.  I'll check with Dennis and get back to you.

Thanks for the sample file.

-Kirk

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2015, 06:08:09 AM »
Kirk:

Just so you know, the is the crop of the image that is "stuck" in ACR.

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2015, 11:40:24 AM »
Mick,

When I open up your NEF file in ACR (Photoshop CS5) on my system it has no crop.  Perhaps ACR is keeping some shadowed data?  Are you sure you have no XMP sidecar file in the folder with your image?

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2015, 02:38:39 PM »
Just so you know, the is the crop of the image that is "stuck" in ACR.

Mick, it looks like you have the "Enable Lens Profile Correction" box checked in ACR.  There is no crop.  The "stuck crop" you posted above wasn't the same as the original.  Noticed you shot this with 16mm fisheye and the "stuck crop" looked like it had been corrected.  So I turned this box on in ACR (under Lens Correction section) and got the same image.

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Re: Cropping Problem
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2015, 05:41:00 PM »
Duh! Well, that would certainly do it, wouldn't it. I don't use my fisheye enough to remember to change that setting when I do.

Thanks for the help. Sorry about the wild goose chase.