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Hidden information fields
« on: August 13, 2013, 01:43:14 AM »
Hi Kirk,

I would like to suggest a feature that could be quite helpful in a number of IPTC instances. Currently I have a very large number of 'People' names that I have imported from Media Pro and added them to the Description/Caption field. Is it possible to include the ability to 'hide' information relevant to a People name or for that matter any IPTC field content in the following fashion:

Riner Teddy (FRA 2012 gold/2008 bronze/5 x Wchamp)

The bracketed information would be visible but not added to the IPTC field. This feature is part of Media Pro and can be seen on the attached snippet in the Description field.  When the drop down menu is used the Description information is shown in a bracket for reference purposes but not added to the field.

I think it would be very helpful in a lot of instances.
David

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Re: Hidden information fields
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2013, 05:33:22 AM »
This seems difficult, either the information is there (in the IPTC) or not. In MediaPro it is probably hidden, and maybe there is a setting to inactivate the writing of certain IPTC fields when converting/copying to JPG?

Many programs (including simple and free viewers like Irfanview) offer to delete Exif and/or IPTC in JPG. I have not seen any that offers selective transfer of specific IPTC fields. 

I write IPTC to the raw (NEF and RW2) with PM5 and convert to jpg with ASP (Corel AftershotPro). I have settings to convert to "normal" JPG which retain IPTC, and to reduced JPGs with no IPTC. Adobe does the same when using "output for web" => Exif and IPTC are stripped.

It is certainly doable in PM if "they" decide to do it. I would not use it since I only ingest Raw with PM, I think the selection (full or partial IPTC) is more useful for the final JPG.

Francis

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Re: Hidden information fields
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 06:37:36 AM »
David,

I would like to suggest a feature that could be quite helpful in a number of IPTC instances. Currently I have a very large number of 'People' names that I have imported from Media Pro and added them to the Description/Caption field. Is it possible to include the ability to 'hide' information relevant to a People name or for that matter any IPTC field content in the following fashion:

Riner Teddy (FRA 2012 gold/2008 bronze/5 x Wchamp)

The bracketed information would be visible but not added to the IPTC field. This feature is part of Media Pro and can be seen on the attached snippet in the Description field.  When the drop down menu is used the Description information is shown in a bracket for reference purposes but not added to the field.

Well the information already exists in the IPTC field, right?  If PM were to hide it and then you were to edit the Caption then what would be expected to happen?  Would the hidden data be lost forever, or would PM have to figure out where hidden data resides and reinsert it back into the Caption for you?

This is not likely a feature we would ever implement.

Perhaps Media Pro could write this data to some custom XMP fields.  PM would never show them, but would preserve them since it preserves all metadata already present in XMP that it doesn't edit.

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Re: Hidden information fields
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 07:59:07 AM »
Thanks Kirk.

I was actually thinking that it could be implemented in a similar fashion to the code replacement where the forward slash is used to protect characters but does not show in a caption. For instance, if the back slash was used to operate in a similar fashion to the Media Pro description field protecting all info entered between two back slash characters that could obviously be altered and saved as needed.

Just an idea that works well in Media Pro that I hoped could be utilised in PM and its anxiously awaited catalogue programme.