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Offline William R Wood

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Hierarchical keyword sort order
« on: August 04, 2020, 09:54:55 AM »
I frequently label my keywords with numbers for various reasons.

For example:
Creatures
 1 Dogs
 2 Cats
 3 Birds
 4 Insects

The problem is that if I create a subcategory under one or more of the numbered keywords they no longer sort in numerical order. The categories with subcategories sort first. This is massively annoying. :)
Is there any hope you would make an option to retain normal sorting instead of sorting the subcategory items first?

For example:
Creatures
 2 Cats
    Big cats
    Small cats
 1 Dogs
 3 Birds
 4 Insects

Thanks

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Re: Hierarchical keyword sort order
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2020, 12:46:21 PM »
William,

I frequently label my keywords with numbers for various reasons.

For example:
Creatures
 1 Dogs
 2 Cats
 3 Birds
 4 Insects

The problem is that if I create a subcategory under one or more of the numbered keywords they no longer sort in numerical order. The categories with subcategories sort first. This is massively annoying. :)
Is there any hope you would make an option to retain normal sorting instead of sorting the subcategory items first?

For example:
Creatures
 2 Cats
    Big cats
    Small cats
 1 Dogs
 3 Birds
 4 Insects

Thanks

Possibly, but since this isn't a Photo Mechanic Plus issue, you'd get better traction by making a feature request here:

https://docs.camerabits.com/support/discussions/forums/48000071283

-Kirk

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Re: Hierarchical keyword sort order
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2020, 03:26:51 PM »
Oops, so used to clicking on PM Plus forum I did not think.

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Re: Hierarchical keyword sort order
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2020, 09:54:13 AM »
Wait a minute, I was correct posting here I believe or maybe it should be in PM Plus support.
My issue exists only in PM Plus.

In PM Plus Organizer, Browse tab I can list my Structured Keywords in the left panel.
I am attaching a screen shot below.
Please note my parent keyword "Upgrades" which has a long list of subcategory project labels listed by year.
Some of the project labels have their own subcategories.
You will see that PM Plus sorts the project labels that have subcategories first even though that puts the years out of order with the rest of the projects.
The various projects that do not have subcategories are sorted properly by year but they are separate from the group with subcategories.
This is wacky and defeats my purpose in listing the projects by year.

Also note that in the Structured Keyword Panel PM Plus handles this situation perfectly.
I am attaching a screen shot of that as well.
All of the exact same projects are listed in order by year whether they have subcategories or not.
This inconsistency shows that PM Plus is mis-sorting the keywords in the Organizer feature.

Hopefully this inconsistency can be eliminated or at least provide an option or custom sort feature that resolves the issue.

Thanks


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Re: Hierarchical keyword sort order
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2020, 09:55:47 AM »
Don't know what happened to the second screen shot, here it is I hope.

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Re: Hierarchical keyword sort order
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2020, 10:29:10 AM »
Hello,
Have you tried unchecking this option in the "Catalog Preferences" ?
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Re: Hierarchical keyword sort order
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2020, 10:50:05 AM »
Thanks a million!!  :)
That fixed it instantly!
Can't believe I did not see that myself.

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2020, 11:39:16 AM »
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Re: Hierarchical keyword sort order
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2020, 02:27:42 PM »
I'm glad you guys figured it out.  I thought you were talking about the Structured Keywords panel that is available in both products, William.

-Kirk