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Kirk Baker:
David,
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--- Quote from: Kirk Baker on October 09, 2020, 09:26:23 AM ---One thing I can tell you is when we're satisfied with our renderer, it won't render like the Adobe DNG Converter (or Lightroom) does. We won't be able to duplicate their output. So if you still really need the same color you'll have to use the Adobe DNG Converter as your renderer.
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Can you share some more of your plans Kirk? At the moment PM uses the camera created JPEG within a raw file - as far as I understand. Is your new render going to go beyond that? I could live without 100% colour accuracy, I'm assuming you'll be able to 'see' some changes made by ACR. Or if that's wrong why do you feel the need to build a renderer?
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You would not see any adjustments you made in Adobe products. For us to generate an accurate rendering of ACR settings, we would have to reverse engineer their proprietary rendering system. That's not going to happen.
The reason for creating a built-in rendering system is to support RAW files that either contain a preview that is too small (some cameras only embed a thumbnail) or contains no preview at all.
--- Quote from: davidgordon on October 10, 2020, 02:54:20 AM ---Last week I shot some night cityscapes. I've had to use Lightroom to open up the shadows a fair bit. I'd like to see that reflected in PM and PM+. Will I be able to use the built-in renderer or have to resort to Adobe's?
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The built-in rendering system would not show Lr or ACR adjustments.
-Kirk
davidgordon:
--- Quote from: Kirk Baker on October 10, 2020, 06:24:58 AM ---The built-in rendering system would not show Lr or ACR adjustments.
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No change for me then. I haven't found it to be an issue so I'm not too bothered. If I was really bothered I guess I could convert my raw files, be they CR2, NEF, ORF or RAF, into DNG format. I _think_ PM will then show me a version as corrected by LR or ACR as the JPEG in the DNG is updated to reflect the changes and PM is in turn using that JPEG for display.
Thanks again Kirk.
Kirk Baker:
David,
--- Quote from: davidgordon on October 11, 2020, 03:42:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Kirk Baker on October 10, 2020, 06:24:58 AM ---The built-in rendering system would not show Lr or ACR adjustments.
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If I was really bothered I guess I could convert my raw files, be they CR2, NEF, ORF or RAF, into DNG format. I _think_ PM will then show me a version as corrected by LR or ACR as the JPEG in the DNG is updated to reflect the changes and PM is in turn using that JPEG for display.
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Yes, that's correct.
-Kirk
davidgordon:
--- Quote from: Kirk Baker on October 10, 2020, 06:24:58 AM ---The reason for creating a built-in rendering system is to support RAW files that either contain a preview that is too small (some cameras only embed a thumbnail) or contains no preview at all.
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Having said the forthcoming PM render is of no interest, maybe it is. Raw files with no or too small a preview might include RAF format? Out of interest is there a list of raw formats stating which have full size previews and which don't?
Thanks!
Kirk Baker:
David,
--- Quote from: davidgordon on October 12, 2020, 05:40:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: Kirk Baker on October 10, 2020, 06:24:58 AM ---The reason for creating a built-in rendering system is to support RAW files that either contain a preview that is too small (some cameras only embed a thumbnail) or contains no preview at all.
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Having said the forthcoming PM render is of no interest, maybe it is. Raw files with no or too small a preview might include RAF format? Out of interest is there a list of raw formats stating which have full size previews and which don't?
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We haven't made a formal list. Yes, I believe that RAF files for the most part, include fairly low-resolution previews.
-Kirk
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