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Re: Photo Mechanic 2025.5 Release Candidate: Keyboard Shortcuts Issues
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2025, 08:13:43 AM »
Gentlemen,

I think something outside of PM is assigning Command-M to Minimize on the Window menu in PM.  I've attached two images, one showing the Window menu as I have designed it in Xcode.  The second image shows the Window menu as it is in PM at runtime, with the Option key held down.  Notice that in the first image there is no Minimize All menu item, yet there is one at runtime.  Also note that on macOS Ventura, there is no keyboard shortcut applied to Minimize All, whereas in Robert's screenshot Command-Option-M is set on Minimize All.  Something has to be setting that, and it is clear that macOS is adding a number of menu items to the Window menu that I did not create.

I'm not sure that there is much that I can do about it (and there may be other global keyboard shortcuts that may get in the way too).  PM6 hard-codes all keyboard shortcuts and does not make any attempts to cooperate with global keyboard shortcuts (those defined by other parts of macOS.)

Fortunately, there are a lot of keys on the keyboard that you can use instead, albeit probably less memorable for your purposes.

I'm interested in your thoughts on this.  It can be an uphill battle to fight against an OS.

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Re: Photo Mechanic 2025.5 Release Candidate: Keyboard Shortcuts Issues
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2025, 01:03:08 PM »
Hi Kirk

Thanks for the explanation. Absolutely fine for me and no problem. I can imagine that the various macOS versions all behave differently with 'their' shortcuts and controlling it is almost impossble. I now have assigned all my preferred menu items to 'my' shortcuts and is good 😊

Thanks for all your efforts and best regards
Michael

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Re: Photo Mechanic 2025.5 Release Candidate: Keyboard Shortcuts Issues
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2025, 03:45:54 PM »
Hi Kirk,
Fortunately, there are a lot of keys on the keyboard that you can use instead, albeit probably less memorable for your purposes.

Thanks for trying. With so many different systems to support it's no surprise conflicts occur.

Is it possible to let users remap Fn+F2 to rename files, the same as Lightroom? In PM it's set to "View -> Selected" and when I remove that shortcut, it won't let me assign it to "File -> Rename Photos...".

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Re: Photo Mechanic 2025.5 Release Candidate: Keyboard Shortcuts Issues
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2025, 10:55:02 PM »
Robert,

I added the ability to use function keys anywhere in the top-level menus without needing other qualifier keys (Command/Shift/Control/Option).
Also added is that the Rating and Color Class submenus in the contextual menus now show their shortcuts when applicable.

Universal-binary build: https://www.camerabits.com/download/PhotoMechanicR8595_54970672.dmg

I extended the expire date to mid-June.  I also updated the Announcement post with the new builds.

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Re: Photo Mechanic 2025.5 Release Candidate: Keyboard Shortcuts Issues
« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 05:07:44 AM »
Thanks Kirk,

This build has got me back to my happy place. :)

I did a clean install, and imported settings from a backup PMX file. All the shortcuts work as I'm used to, including Cmd+M for renaming. Cmd+M longer shows as Minimize in the Menu. I'm not sure if you changed something in this build, or somethings changed on my end.

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Re: Photo Mechanic 2025.5 Release Candidate: Keyboard Shortcuts Issues
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 08:30:52 AM »
Robert,

This build has got me back to my happy place. :)

I did a clean install, and imported settings from a backup PMX file. All the shortcuts work as I'm used to, including Cmd+M for renaming. Cmd+M longer shows as Minimize in the Menu. I'm not sure if you changed something in this build, or somethings changed on my end.

A number of changes were made based on your and Michael's feedback.  Were you able to record F2 as Rename as you desired?

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Re: Photo Mechanic 2025.5 Release Candidate: Keyboard Shortcuts Issues
« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 09:34:41 AM »
Hi all

I did some brief tests and everything looks good to me 😉

Thanks and have a nice weekend
Michael

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Hi Kirk,

Were you able to record F2 as Rename as you desired?

Yes it works perfectly thank you. I removed the F2 shortcut from View -> Selected first.

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