Camera One + PMP workflow for visualizing exposure adjustment

[braver]

I am used to Lightroom where any image adjustment shows up immediately.  My most typical use case is adjusting underexposed photos.  Clicking auto exposure fixes it in 99% cases.  Capture One is the same.

For now I do the following: having set Capture One as the image editor, I open a session for the current work (avoiding the Lightroom catalog trap).  When I press command-E in PMP, it sends it to Capture One.  If it's a new folder, C1 builds previews for the whole folder of the original single shot (can I prevent that?).  Then I click Auto Adjust, command-L.  Actually High Dynamic Range also works fine (does it have a shortcut and how is it different from command-L?).  Then I do command-D, which uses the previous export, which I set to highest-quality JPEG in the same folder as the original.  That creates a file <original name> 1.jpg and shows up in the same folder contact sheet in PMP from where I selected the original and pressed command-E.

Obviously it's much more motions than doing it all in Lightroom or all in C1.

Are there any better ways to edit photos from PMP and come back to it reviewing the results?

[Max Lemesh]

Thats a strange workflow, but if it does the job.
I would assume you work via session, not catalogue in C1

If it's a new folder, C1 builds previews for the whole folder of the original single shot (can I prevent that?).

nope, session will read all of the images in folder every time you open it and will make previews for them

Are there any better ways to edit photos from PMP and come back to it reviewing the results?

you can create an export recipe in C1 so that it saves image in subfolder and opens it in PMP after, there is a setting for that in C1.
But you want to see the results in the same folder as originals to compare, right?

[braver]

OK I've stumbled upon a perfect workflow by accident!  I had one of the Leicas to set to shoot DNG only, not DNG+JPG.  When I do command-E in PMP and edit in C1, and export to the same folder as the original, PMP picks up the new JPEG and shows it with the original DNG as a DNG+jpg (I have set lowercase extensions in PMP) and selects the new JPEG for preview!  So it immediately interactively shows the results of C1 adjustments.

Now the only problem is when the original camera ingest brings in pairs DNG+JPG.  My current manual solution is to select the shot, ctrl-click it, Reveal in Finder, and move the JPG aside to ... 0.JPG.  Then cmd-E / cmd-L / cmd-D creates an adjusted .jpg that, back in PMP, is paired with the original DNG.

How can I automate it, moving the original JPG if it exists away to ... 0.JPG?

Alternatively, I can instruct C1 to overwrite the existing JPG, which I back up anyways.  Still I wonder how can I move it aside instead.

[Kirk Baker]

OK I've stumbled upon a perfect workflow by accident!  I had one of the Leicas to set to shoot DNG only, not DNG+JPG.  When I do command-E in PMP and edit in C1, and export to the same folder as the original, PMP picks up the new JPEG and shows it with the original DNG as a DNG+jpg (I have set lowercase extensions in PMP) and selects the new JPEG for preview!  So it immediately interactively shows the results of C1 adjustments.

Now the only problem is when the original camera ingest brings in pairs DNG+JPG.  My current manual solution is to select the shot, ctrl-click it, Reveal in Finder, and move the JPG aside to ... 0.JPG.  Then cmd-E / cmd-L / cmd-D creates an adjusted .jpg that, back in PMP, is paired with the original DNG.

How can I automate it, moving the original JPG if it exists away to ... 0.JPG?

You could make the DNG and JPG go into different folders on Ingest if you like.  You can do this with variables in the destination folder name.  Putting {type} in the folder name will evaluate to ADNG for DNG files, and JPEG for JPG files.  If you want different names, you could use Code Replacement to have those names evaluate to names of your choosing.

-Kirk

[braver]

Kirk -- thanks, this is very cool!  How do I actually add the {type} to a folder name on Mac?  The Primary and Secondary buttons both open a folder picker.

[braver]

I wonder if I can assign cmd-E to a script that would move aside an original JPG if present and pass the DNG to C1.  What's the expectation for the Application that is invoked by cmd-E?  Just an executable with a parameter?  Can it be a bash/zsh script?

[Robert Edwards Media]

Hi Braver, I use PM & C1 on deadline.  Here's what works well for me:

1- Create a C1 session & select the desired output recipe.   
2- Open a PM Contact Sheet on the session's Output folder.
3- Lock & rate select images in-camera.
4- In PM, CTRL-G to incrementally ingest locked photos directly into the C1 Selects folder.
5- Switch to C1 and the images are there.  Be sure your previews are set to your screen resolution, else C1 will spend additional time rendering previews.
6- Edit the images in C1 & output to the C1 session Output folder
7- Switch to PM to caption the selects. 
8- CTRL-U to transmit selects.  Once transmission is completed, CTRL-1 to apply the red color category to transmitted images, then hide the red color in the Contact Sheet.  This provides a "clean slate" for the next batch of images you ingest.  If you need to review what you've already transmitted, just toggle red on/off in the Contact Sheet.

[ahoward]

Kirk -- thanks, this is very cool!  How do I actually add the {type} to a folder name on Mac?  The Primary and Secondary buttons both open a folder picker.

Sorry for the delayed reply on this one. Just noticed the question after seeing the new reply.

Ingest can create a folder inside of the directory you've chosen as the primary destination by setting the "Copy Photos" menu to "into folder with name" and then use a variable in the "Folder name" field that appears. To have this work when Ingesting from a disk, you would kind of need to do 2 Ingests, one where "Filter files" is set to "Copy RAW photos only" and another with "Copy non-RAW photos only". If you Ingest them both together, the RAWs and JPEGs get paired up and will both go into a JPEG folder when using the {type} variable. Alternatively, you could open the folders on the card as a Contact Sheet and use Command+J to split up the RAWs and JPEGs and then use "Ingest from Selection" after selecting everything on the Contact Sheet (although Incremental Ingest is not something that this type of Ingest uses, and I know you had mentioned previously that you rely on this feature).