odd monitor profile/PM interaction

[avitch]

Hi,

I just built my first monitor profile with X-Rite's colormunki device and software. Previously, I've used an i1 kit to do the job.

Using the i1 profiles, Photo Mechanic behaved as I would expect - images looked the same when viewed in PM, Photoshop, Lightroom, and any other color aware app.

As soon as I switched to the new colormunki profile, however, I noticed that images viewed in Photo Mechanic appeared overly bright and blown out. The same images look fine in Photoshop and Lightroom, but, oddly enough, they look similarly blown out when viewed with the Windows Vista media player.

If I switch back to an old i1 profile, everything looks fine again in all apps.

Here is my nitty gritty:

OS: Vista Home Premium, SP1
PM: 4.5.3.2
RAM: 4 BG

For what it is worth, I've attached a screen shot of my desktop showing the behavior.

Adam

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[Kirk Baker]

Adam,

I just built my first monitor profile with X-Rite's colormunki device and software. Previously, I've used an i1 kit to do the job.

Using the i1 profiles, Photo Mechanic behaved as I would expect - images looked the same when viewed in PM, Photoshop, Lightroom, and any other color aware app.

As soon as I switched to the new colormunki profile, however, I noticed that images viewed in Photo Mechanic appeared overly bright and blown out. The same images look fine in Photoshop and Lightroom, but, oddly enough, they look similarly blown out when viewed with the Windows Vista media player.

If I switch back to an old i1 profile, everything looks fine again in all apps.

Photo Mechanic uses Microsoft's ICM (color management system) and I would imagine that Vista's Media Player uses it too.  Adobe uses its own proprietary color engine.  I suggest calling up X-Rite's support folks and describe the problem and see if they have a solution since they're the ones creating the ICC profiles that are causing fits for Microsoft's color engine.

-Kirk

[avitch]

Thanks. I suspected it would be something like that myself.

[avitch]

Here is the reply I received from X-Rite support after describing the problem:

"This issue is something that our development team is currently working on. The reason for the incompatibility is that the Windows platform, in particular Vista and Vista SP1, are not compatible with version 4 ICC profiles. The i1 Match and the i1 Products that use this software have the ability to generate version 2 ICC profiles which is why you are not seeing the incompatilbility issue.

This is being address with a future release to the software once the development team completes further testing."

[Kirk Baker]

Adam,

Here is the reply I received from X-Rite support after describing the problem:

"This issue is something that our development team is currently working on. The reason for the incompatibility is that the Windows platform, in particular Vista and Vista SP1, are not compatible with version 4 ICC profiles. The i1 Match and the i1 Products that use this software have the ability to generate version 2 ICC profiles which is why you are not seeing the incompatilbility issue.

This is being address with a future release to the software once the development team completes further testing."

Good to know.  Thanks for following up.

-Kirk

[Thilo]

Here is the reply I received from X-Rite support after describing the problem:

"This issue is something that our development team is currently working on. The reason for the incompatibility is that the Windows platform, in particular Vista and Vista SP1, are not compatible with version 4 ICC profiles. The i1 Match and the i1 Products that use this software have the ability to generate version 2 ICC profiles which is why you are not seeing the incompatilbility issue.

This is being address with a future release to the software once the development team completes further testing."

Update is available since today - Colormunki can now create V2 ICC-profiles and works as expected with PM :-)

Thilo

[avitch]

I look forward to checking this via ColorMunki's built in update tool. According to the ColorMunki website, no software update has been issued since version 1.05, which was released on December 1, 2008.

[avitch]

I've checked for an update, but version 1.05 remains the current software available in the U.S.A. Where did you find the updated software?

[Thilo]

It was available since June 5 with the integrated upgrade tool, now it's also available on the website:

http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?Action=support&ID=1115

-Thilo