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Offline miguelr

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Renaming problems
« on: February 08, 2014, 07:09:22 AM »
When I moved CR2 files from the CF card to some folder,  the renaiming process does not work correctly.

Please see  the two screen captures with the error messages.


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Running PM 5.0, build 15277 (0ebcc6a) on Windows 7 

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2014, 08:12:29 AM »
Miguel,

When I moved CR2 files from the CF card to some folder,  the renaiming process does not work correctly.

Please see  the two screen captures with the error messages.


Thanks

Running PM 5.0, build 15277 (0ebcc6a) on Windows 7

If you put {frame4} as one of your contact sheet thumbnail labels, do most of the images show 0000 ?

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 06:05:56 PM »
Some are with the  correct number and others 0000A,0000B,.....etc.



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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 10:04:13 PM »
Miguel,

Some are with the  correct number and others 0000A,0000B,.....etc.

In the Contact Sheet section of the Preferences dialog there are three fields that allow you to customize your thumbnail labels.  Put {frame4} as the first label.  Then see what the values are.  Your screen shot only shows file names and not the additional label with {frame4} as its value.

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 06:16:51 AM »
Sorry, I misunderstood.

Here is the result and thanks for your help.

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 08:11:36 AM »
Miguel,

Here is the result and thanks for your help.

Can you post any one of those three images so I can look at their metadata?

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 09:01:16 AM »
Here is one picture

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 10:15:25 AM »
Miguel,

Thanks for the sample.  Can you tell me what order of operations you performed on this image?  I can tell that it has been modified by Photoshop and Photo Mechanic.  It has a frame number of zero in its XMP metadata.

Did you edit this image on the card?  You originally mentioned CR2 files, but this sample is a JPEG.  Does the CR2 file also show zero for the frame number?

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2014, 08:40:05 PM »
Kirk,

Thank you for your help. Perhaps the previous sample was not the best since the metadata in the original CR2, the frame number also is 0.

I am sending you now,  a sample of the contact sheet (name + {frame})  and the metadata  of two pictures.

Most of the time I have different jobs in one card. For that reason I prefer not to  ingest the card and instead I open the contact sheet and move  each job to a folder with name and date.

Finally,  I tried ingesting with the option renaming {frame} and the result is the same.

Thanks again

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2014, 11:28:42 AM »
Miguel,

Thank you for your help. Perhaps the previous sample was not the best since the metadata in the original CR2, the frame number also is 0.

I am sending you now,  a sample of the contact sheet (name + {frame})  and the metadata  of two pictures.

Most of the time I have different jobs in one card. For that reason I prefer not to  ingest the card and instead I open the contact sheet and move  each job to a folder with name and date.

Finally,  I tried ingesting with the option renaming {frame} and the result is the same.

Could you tell me the shortest set of steps required to reproduce this problem?  If I can reproduce the problem locally then I can almost certainly fix it right away.

Please post any relevant screen shots of settings in any parts of PM you think I'll need to see.

Thanks,

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2014, 01:30:45 PM »
Just a note,

If you're trying to rename everything based on the last 4 digits of the filename then a much more reliable renaming string would be {fbas: -4} rather than {frame} since it's possible for the frame number to become stripped from the metadata.


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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2014, 06:53:05 AM »
Thank you Brandon.

I will try.

I was doing this for years and never had a problem. Came with the new version of PM.

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Miguel

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2014, 09:30:38 AM »
Miguel,

Brandon's advice is purely a workaround.  It won't help me get to the root of the problem.  Could you please help me by giving me the shortest list of steps that reproduces your problem?

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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2014, 08:40:15 AM »
Sorry for the delay...very busy.

Here is my process.

Insert CF  on reader
Open a contact sheet
Select a group of píctures or all depending of how many jobs I have in the card
Move with rename variable {frame}  and "Always pick destination"
Pictures are dumped to a folder with date and description of job

FYI

Problem occurred with a large number of pictures in the card. Last occurrence i had 339 pix and do far never happen with small amount of files.

I copied the 339 files with Brandon's suggestion and I had no errors. Same files copied with {frame} came up with errors.

Thanks for your help.

Miguel


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Re: Renaming problems
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2014, 08:56:17 AM »
Miguel,

Sorry for the delay...very busy.

Here is my process.

Insert CF  on reader
Open a contact sheet
Select a group of píctures or all depending of how many jobs I have in the card
Move with rename variable {frame}  and "Always pick destination"
Pictures are dumped to a folder with date and description of job

FYI

Problem occurred with a large number of pictures in the card. Last occurrence i had 339 pix and do far never happen with small amount of files.

I copied the 339 files with Brandon's suggestion and I had no errors. Same files copied with {frame} came up with errors.

Thanks.  I'll try and reproduce this problem locally and I'll fix it if I can.

-Kirk